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Re: Mathematical Methods - Pre-Exam 2 Advice for 2012
« Reply #30 on: November 05, 2012, 11:34:51 pm »
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Is writing y - f(x1) = m(x - x1) appropriate?
f(x) - f(x1) = m(x - x1)

or

f(x) - f(x1) = f'(x1)(x - x1)

or

y - y1 = m(x - x1)

Don't have both y(x) and f(x) related notion in the one equation.
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Re: Mathematical Methods - Pre-Exam 2 Advice for 2012
« Reply #31 on: November 06, 2012, 09:00:06 am »
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If they give you an equation of like f(x) = sqrt (2x-1) and the ask you to find the derivative, can you say
"Let dy/dx = f'(x)" or do you have to say something more like "Let y = f(x) , therefore, dy/dx = f'(x)"?
Just curious about this notation.

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« Reply #32 on: November 06, 2012, 09:19:58 am »
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I would lean towards the latter, but you might as well just write "f'(x) = ___" straight away. Depends on the question though, I guess. But yes, you do have to define y in order to call something dy/dx, at least in methods situations.
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« Reply #33 on: November 06, 2012, 10:27:20 am »
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if its just an expression and not an equation can you right d/dx or is that calculator syntax?
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« Reply #34 on: November 06, 2012, 11:15:43 am »
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If you mean something like then yes it's fine
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« Reply #35 on: November 06, 2012, 11:54:57 am »
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say if the question is find the derivative of x^2 is it acceptable to write d/dx = 2x
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Re: Mathematical Methods - Pre-Exam 2 Advice for 2012
« Reply #36 on: November 06, 2012, 12:10:09 pm »
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You say

Or if the original equation was , you can say
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Re: Mathematical Methods - Pre-Exam 2 Advice for 2012
« Reply #37 on: November 06, 2012, 12:50:28 pm »
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Yeah, d/dx by itself is meaningless
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Re: Mathematical Methods - Pre-Exam 2 Advice for 2012
« Reply #38 on: November 06, 2012, 01:31:20 pm »
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Yeah, d/dx by itself is meaningless

It's an operator that says "differentiate"

So if it's just d/dx by itself, it would just read "differentiate..." which makes no sense.

d(x^2)/dx would mean "differentiate x^2" - which is 2x

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Re: Mathematical Methods - Pre-Exam 2 Advice for 2012
« Reply #39 on: November 06, 2012, 01:47:24 pm »
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I would lean towards the latter, but you might as well just write "f'(x) = ___" straight away. Depends on the question though, I guess. But yes, you do have to define y in order to call something dy/dx, at least in methods situations.
So if the question says 'Find the derivative of 2x' in our first line we can write f(x) = 2x and then write in our second line f'(x) = 2?
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Re: Mathematical Methods - Pre-Exam 2 Advice for 2012
« Reply #40 on: November 06, 2012, 01:54:56 pm »
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There's a few ways to do it, quickest way is

But yes that's fine, though you should probably have the word 'Let' in front of the first line
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Re: Mathematical Methods - Pre-Exam 2 Advice for 2012
« Reply #41 on: November 07, 2012, 09:37:25 pm »
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Finding f(x) given f'(x) - a shortcut
- If we know a derivative and a point on the curve f(x), there is a shortcut to solving it
- It's using a command on the CAS called dSolve - for the ClassPad
- Go interactive, advanced, dSolve
- In the first column, type y'=...(derivative)...
- Independent Variable - x
- Dependent Variable - y
- Initial condition, type, for example if we had the point (1, 5) - "x=1,y=5"


Could somebody please give an example as to where to implement this, and what I would input? Can't seem to get it to work.

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Re: Mathematical Methods - Pre-Exam 2 Advice for 2012
« Reply #42 on: November 07, 2012, 09:43:18 pm »
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Finding f(x) given f'(x) - a shortcut
- If we know a derivative and a point on the curve f(x), there is a shortcut to solving it
- It's using a command on the CAS called dSolve - for the ClassPad
- Go interactive, advanced, dSolve
- In the first column, type y'=...(derivative)...
- Independent Variable - x
- Dependent Variable - y
- Initial condition, type, for example if we had the point (1, 5) - "x=1,y=5"


Could somebody please give an example as to where to implement this, and what I would input? Can't seem to get it to work.
Same here. Is it possible to do it on the nspire?
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