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Did anyone do the Melbourne Uni Maths Competition today?
« on: May 02, 2012, 07:25:42 pm »
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How did you find it?

How many questions did you answer?

What was your favourite question?
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Re: Did anyone do the Melbourne Uni Maths Competition today?
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2012, 08:30:08 pm »
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Was Dr. He's son there?
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Re: Did anyone do the Melbourne Uni Maths Competition today?
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2012, 08:37:30 pm »
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Yeah, I'm a spud so I struggled.

Only answered 5 questions :S

Favourite question, the one with the rectangle folded along the diagonal that had half the people (me inclusive) folding papers and stuff.

5 questions out of 6? if so that's great.

How many questions do you reckon you can remember, to test out some of the math elites on this forum?
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Re: Did anyone do the Melbourne Uni Maths Competition today?
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2012, 09:44:05 pm »
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1. A rectangle of area a x b is folded along the diagonal. Find the area of the resulting shape (probably didn't explain it right, looks like two overlapping triangles).

Do you remember what you got for this?
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Re: Did anyone do the Melbourne Uni Maths Competition today?
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2012, 10:15:23 pm »
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Don't think I had anything for it. You? Oh and how many questions did you answer?

I didn't do it haha.. I'm just curious


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Oh and I just did it then and i got something silly like   where
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Re: Did anyone do the Melbourne Uni Maths Competition today?
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2012, 10:19:08 pm »
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Did you do question 2?
I don't really know my probability at all, something inside of me just wants to add them all up...
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Re: Did anyone do the Melbourne Uni Maths Competition today?
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2012, 10:43:34 pm »
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Yeah, but I think I did it wrong, cos I'm still unsure whether you need a particular combination of arms to collapse to let the ship through. But if any one arm collapsing will let the ship fall, I drew a tree diagram with 5 stage things, with A collapses, Yes or No, then B collapses, Yes or No, etc.
And my answer came out to (1/2)5 = 1/32, but I'm sure it's wrong.

Ok yeah I'm trying to figure out if the total probability would be greater than or less than 1/2... It seems like it would be more if only 1 or more arms has to break. I'm not sure..

Are there any questions for which you felt good about your answer? I think I can probably answer questions..... 1,5 and 6 properly just thinking about them now.

1 using some similar triangles
5 using properties of pythagorean triples and parity of coordinates
6 using the properties of basis vectors
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Re: Did anyone do the Melbourne Uni Maths Competition today?
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2012, 10:47:34 pm »
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The set of S consists of all nonnegative integers. Prove that x+2y, for x,y E S, can equal any number in S.

isn't this question kinda trivial?

since we can just let y = 0, then x E S
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Re: Did anyone do the Melbourne Uni Maths Competition today?
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2012, 10:49:46 pm »
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I know... there's probably a mistake, wonder what the real one was.
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« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2012, 10:51:09 pm »
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i'm assuming it's probably a question to show S, or some subset of it, is closed under + or something along those lines...
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Re: Did anyone do the Melbourne Uni Maths Competition today?
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2012, 10:51:50 pm »
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The set of S consists of all nonnegative integers. Prove that x+2y, for x,y E S, can equal any number in S.

isn't this question kinda trivial?

since we can just let y = 0, then x E S

yeah I realised that after I made it too complicated for myself -.-
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Re: Did anyone do the Melbourne Uni Maths Competition today?
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2012, 10:52:38 pm »
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While you guys are here...
How would you go about question 2?
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Re: Did anyone do the Melbourne Uni Maths Competition today?
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2012, 11:15:48 pm »
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3. Something about table tennis games, with persons A, B, C and D. Two people play in each game, and the rules are that when a game is finished, the winner plays again, the loser goes off, and the person who has missed the most consecutive games comes on. If two people have both missed the same number of games consecutively, either can go on. At the end of the day, A has played 61 games, B 22, C 21 and D 20. who played in the 33rd game?

Can anyone help with this?
It's getting late and I can't think straight...

Would I be right in saying that there would have been 62 games and that A missed out on either the first or the last game?
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Re: Did anyone do the Melbourne Uni Maths Competition today?
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2012, 11:35:36 pm »
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4. There is an odd number of people standing in a field. Each person is a different distance away from each other, i.e. there is a unique distance between each person. At precisely the same time, each person flops out a water pistol and shoots and hits the person nearest them. Prove that at least one person will not be shot.

Suppose each person was shot. Draw an arrow from A to B if A shot B. Let n be the number of people. As there are n people and n arrows, that means that each person must have gotten show by a unique person. Let us now look at the connected components of this graph(network). Clearly it can't be the case that each connected component contains 2 people, as otherwise there's an even number of people in total. So consider a connected component with at least three people. Say P1 shot P2 and let Q be a third person in this connected component, clearly P2 couldn't have shot P1 as otherwise P1 and P2 forms a connected component (this is by the uniqueness of murderers for each person) and then Q can't be there. Hence P2 shoots some other person P3 (not P1). So far we have:

P1 -> P2 -> P3

Now P3 didn't shoot P2 since P1 shot P2 (again using uniqueness of murderer) hence P3 must've shot some other person... continuing in this way we form a sequence

P1 -> P2 -> P3 -> ...

eventually it must terminate, and the only way it can is if we eventually hit P1. Hence we have a cycle. Now let d(A,B) denote the distance between A and B, notice that:

d(P1,P2)>d(P2,P3)

since otherwise P2 would have show P1 instead of P3. Continuing in this way we see that as you follow the arrows, the distance d(Pn,P(n+1)) keeps getting smaller (strictly smaller since distances are unique) but this is a contradiction since once you make a full cycle this distances should repeat.
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5. The polygon, P, is plotted on a cartesian plane. All vertices of P have integer coordinates. All sides of P have integer lengths. Prove that the perimeter of polygon P must be even.

Let the points be i=1,2...n.

Then

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