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Math methods unit probability help please
« on: November 08, 2011, 07:55:36 pm »
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porbability help


In how many ways can a set of 4 grls be selected from 10
a. if the edldest girl is included in each set,
b. if the eldest girl is excluded from each set



Another question

A class consits of 15 students of whom 5  are prefects . How many committees of 8 can be formed , each containing
a. exactly 2 prefects
b. at least 2 prefects

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Re: Math methods unit probability help please
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2011, 07:57:26 pm »
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I still don't get why unit 1/2 prob is harder then unit 3/4 prob

god I miss not being able to do prob
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Re: Math methods unit probability help please
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2011, 07:58:41 pm »
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is unit 1 & 2 prob harder then 3& 4

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Re: Math methods unit probability help please
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2011, 08:03:33 pm »
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is unit 1 & 2 prob harder then 3& 4

Yes. Much harder. Unit 3/4 prob is INSANELY EASY, I kid you not, this is the one thing I can pretty much get full marks on every time - and I am probably just above average, unit 1/2 prob was much, much harder
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Re: Math methods unit probability help please
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2011, 08:12:08 pm »
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is unit 1 & 2 prob harder then 3& 4

Yes. Much harder. Unit 3/4 prob is INSANELY EASY, I kid you not, this is the one thing I can pretty much get full marks on every time - and I am probably just above average, unit 1/2 prob was much, much harder

Maybe it was hard coz u were learning it for the first time.
Unit 3/4 probability is just a slight extension of 1/2

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Re: Math methods unit probability help please
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2011, 08:17:36 pm »
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Maybe it was hard coz u were learning it for the first time.
Unit 3/4 probability is just a slight extension of 1/2

I dunno, I think I would still fail 1/2 prob if i did it right now...

I mean stuff like E(x), var(x), the normal distribution, markov and all that are just so easy...combinatrics last year was insane
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Re: Math methods unit probability help please
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2011, 08:17:51 pm »
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is unit 1 & 2 prob harder then 3& 4

Yes. Much harder. Unit 3/4 prob is INSANELY EASY, I kid you not, this is the one thing I can pretty much get full marks on every time - and I am probably just above average, unit 1/2 prob was much, much harder

Maybe it was hard coz u were learning it for the first time.
Unit 3/4 probability is just a slight extension of 1/2
Not entirely, there are a fair few things in unit 1/2 prob that you don't do in unit 3/4 e.g. combinatrics and all that rubbish. Basically you need basic probability from previous years, binomial + a bit of markov chains plus. Then there is the new stuff that has mean/median e.t.c - the itnergration stuff.
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Re: Math methods unit probability help please
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2011, 08:23:52 pm »
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I love transition matrices or markov chains? is there a difference?
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Re: Math methods unit probability help please
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2011, 08:37:39 pm »
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is unit 1 & 2 prob harder then 3& 4

Yes. Much harder. Unit 3/4 prob is INSANELY EASY, I kid you not, this is the one thing I can pretty much get full marks on every time - and I am probably just above average, unit 1/2 prob was much, much harder

Maybe it was hard coz u were learning it for the first time.
Unit 3/4 probability is just a slight extension of 1/2
Not entirely, there are a fair few things in unit 1/2 prob that you don't do in unit 3/4 e.g. combinatrics and all that rubbish. Basically you need basic probability from previous years, binomial + a bit of markov chains plus. Then there is the new stuff that has mean/median e.t.c - the itnergration stuff.

must know how to draw a tree diagram and use a tree diagram in unit 3/4 prob.

I love transition matrices or markov chains? is there a difference?

I think they are the same but with different names?
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Re: Math methods unit probability help please
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2011, 07:37:24 am »
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lool thanks guys for the heads up anyone wanna help out with the questions

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Re: Math methods unit probability help please
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2011, 08:17:53 am »
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I love transition matrices or markov chains? is there a difference?
Markov chains is the process of finding a pr of something after n steps. But yeah, when I talk about markov chains I usually just say transition matrices.
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Re: Math methods unit probability help please
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2011, 11:34:08 am »
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porbability help


In how many ways can a set of 4 grls be selected from 10
a. if the edldest girl is included in each set,
b. if the eldest girl is excluded from each set



Another question

A class consits of 15 students of whom 5  are prefects . How many committees of 8 can be formed , each containing
a. exactly 2 prefects
b. at least 2 prefects


after skimming through I think no one actually answered this, or did we decide it is irrelevant for year12 and hence not going to bother? either way:

a) There are different ways to select the 4 girls in such a way (since the eldest is already there you just need 3 of the remaining 9).

b) So essentially there are 9 girls and you want 4 of them. So .

a) So we have 10 non-prefects and 5 prefects. There are different ways of choosing 6 non-prefects and ways of choosing 2 prefects. Hence in total there are committtees(basically each committee is just a pair of two prefects and six non-prefects)

b) Easier to calculate the compliment, there are committees in total. Find how many contain exactly 1 prefect and how many contain no prefects (use similair reasoning to part a). Now just subtract that from the total.
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