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Controversial Issue: Gay Marriage
« on: March 29, 2011, 04:25:35 PM »
Do You Agree Or Disagree?


Penny Wong, a minister of the federal parliament, a gay person herself was denounced when she was against Gay Marriage. Has the Australia public been all caught up with the hysteria, and gone back to the days of Hippy to protect the minority regardless of the consequences. Or is Gay Marriage Justifiable and should be legislated?



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Re: Controversial Issue: Gay Marriage
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2011, 04:45:34 PM »
Penny Wong is my favourite politician :D

As for your question, I think gay marriage is justifiable. The one argument that has any weight against gay marriage is that marriage is an institution of the church and that therefore the church should decide. However, I don't think that marriage is an institution of the church any more. I completely understand that the church should decide who can have a ceremony in a chapel with a pastor, but as for getting the bit of paper that says you're married, I don't think there's any reason why it shouldn't happen.

I don't think we're getting caught up in hysteria. I just think some people are trying to make the world a nicer place to live.

Also, just because penny wong is a lesbian doesn't mean she has to conform to leftist, "hippy" lesbian stereotypes. She can believe whatever the hell she wants.
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Re: Controversial Issue: Gay Marriage
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2011, 06:00:11 PM »
If you disagree with gay marriage, don't have one.

I think the thing that tends to get ignored in this debate is that stopping a group of people from doing something that other groups of people are allowed to do creates a sense of exclusion and that there is something wrong with them. For me the answer is to either abolish the instituion of marriage together, or open it up to be less exclusionary. Just because one gay person doesn't want to get married, doesn't mean that other gay people shouldn't be given that choice.

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Re: Controversial Issue: Gay Marriage
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2011, 08:12:49 PM »
There is no valid/rational argument against gay marriage.

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Re: Controversial Issue: Gay Marriage
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2011, 09:28:20 PM »
There is no valid/rational argument against gay marriage.

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Re: Controversial Issue: Gay Marriage
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2011, 01:45:19 AM »
There is no valid/rational argument against gay marriage.

By the same logic, can I argue for polygamy?
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Re: Controversial Issue: Gay Marriage
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2011, 01:49:53 PM »
^ I think so. As long as it's not exploitative, sometimes polygamy is.

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« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2011, 05:54:20 PM »
^ I think so. As long as it's not exploitative, sometimes polygamy is.

Can we legalize Incest Marriage as well?
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« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2011, 07:23:42 PM »
^ I think so. As long as it's not exploitative, sometimes polygamy is.

Can we legalize Incest Marriage as well?
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Re: Controversial Issue: Gay Marriage
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2011, 09:24:09 AM »
Mao makes a good point, all of your points in here can be used to defend incestuous marriage. ATAR, why is your reaction towards incestuous marriage any more justifiable then my same reaction towards gay marriage?

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Re: Controversial Issue: Gay Marriage
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2011, 09:49:33 AM »
Mao makes a good point, all of your points in here can be used to defend incestuous marriage. ATAR, why is your reaction towards incestuous marriage any more justifiable then my same reaction towards gay marriage?
Um maybe because two gay people aren't blood-related and don't live together from birth onwards?

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Re: Controversial Issue: Gay Marriage
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2011, 10:09:32 AM »
That's a social taboo not an actual reason.
If incestuous couples don't have kids, there really aren't a lot of reasons other than "ewww" to say it's wrong

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Re: Controversial Issue: Gay Marriage
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2011, 02:59:24 PM »
^ I think so. As long as it's not exploitative, sometimes polygamy is.

Can we legalize Incest Marriage as well?
Sure. Again though, incest can have an element of unequal power in it, so you'd have to be careful about that.

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« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2011, 10:58:20 PM »
Depends how far you go in terms of your family tree.

There is scientific evidence to suggest that incest and the potential progeny that may result from it could lead to offspring with genetic diseases due to lack of diversity in the genetic pool. The contrary argument isn't the same with homosexual marriages. 
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Re: Controversial Issue: Gay Marriage
« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2011, 11:06:40 PM »

  I am against the idea of marriage conferring exalted status or monetary incentives, however I'm fully behind gay couples having the same rights as hetero couples.
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