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Re: GA SCORE ESTIMATOR / STUDY SCORE ESTIMATOR
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2008, 02:16:12 PM »
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well, if you full marked everything your standard score won't be 2.00 (it'll be higher)
grab a grade distribution and see for yourself.



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« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2008, 02:18:31 PM »
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Extraordinary work Mao.

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« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2008, 02:23:03 PM »
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Extraordinary work Mao.

Pure brilliance :D

(now I have hope of getting 33 in eng lol)

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« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2008, 02:28:40 PM »
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i don't know how to use it?

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« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2008, 02:41:53 PM »
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well, if you full marked everything your standard score won't be 2.00 (it'll be higher)
grab a grade distribution and see for yourself.



NOTICE: first post edited, now added SS estimator.

Correct me if my calculations are wrong

Looking at 2007 Chemistry.
Full marks on first exam: standard score would be 1.77
Full marks on SACs: 1.49
Full marks on final exam: 1.87

I just subtracted the mean from the maximum score and then divided it by the standard deviation to find how many standard deviations from the mean the 100% was.

Based on that it is impossible to get standard score above 2 in 2007 Chemistry

btw, the calculator by grades is really quite good, at least in halting the flow of posts in the study score estimations thread
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« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2008, 03:30:33 PM »
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I dont get how to use it man!

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Re: GA SCORE ESTIMATOR / STUDY SCORE ESTIMATOR
« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2008, 04:26:00 PM »
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well, if you full marked everything your standard score won't be 2.00 (it'll be higher)
grab a grade distribution and see for yourself.



NOTICE: first post edited, now added SS estimator.

Correct me if my calculations are wrong

Looking at 2007 Chemistry.
Full marks on first exam: standard score would be 1.77
Full marks on SACs: 1.49
Full marks on final exam: 1.87

I just subtracted the mean from the maximum score and then divided it by the standard deviation to find how many standard deviations from the mean the 100% was.

Based on that it is impossible to get standard score above 2 in 2007 Chemistry

btw, the calculator by grades is really quite good, at least in halting the flow of posts in the study score estimations thread

actually, no.

the figures VCAA give are truncated normal distributions, i.e. conditional probability need to be used. [there is a minimum and maximum]

hence, you need to

1) find the area from 0 marks to x marks
2) divide by the total area (from 0 marks to full marks)
3) multiply by the area from 0 to 50 (mean = 30, sd = 7)
4) add the tail from -infty to 0 (mean = 30, sd = 7)
5) invNorm (mean = 0, sd = 1)

that gives the standardised score for each GA


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Re: GA SCORE ESTIMATOR / STUDY SCORE ESTIMATOR
« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2008, 04:35:43 PM »
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Mao, I still don't get what we're sposed to change and what's spose to remain constant. And lower /upper? lower of A+ or lower bound of all scores?

and do we put in the A+ or B+ or whatevr and the High Med or Low?  confused as hell (A)


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« Reply #23 on: October 31, 2008, 04:41:39 PM »
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OK, I was basing my calculations on that VCAA sample calculation
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Re: GA SCORE ESTIMATOR / STUDY SCORE ESTIMATOR
« Reply #24 on: October 31, 2008, 04:44:23 PM »
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Costa: a tutorial is up on the first post

NE2000: they didn't show calculations :P they just showed you the result [there is a huge jump from score to Stan. Score]


just updated... [again... i'm not very good at this :P]
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« Reply #25 on: October 31, 2008, 04:58:18 PM »
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NE2000: they didn't show calculations :P they just showed you the result [there is a huge jump from score to Stan. Score]

:) Let me rephrase. I deduced that my calculation method was how they too had worked it out given that it yielded the same results (although now that I do it again the results are only the same up to 3 decimal places, after that they diverge). But then again, I'm just a year 11 :P
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« Reply #26 on: October 31, 2008, 05:02:08 PM »
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NE2000: they didn't show calculations :P they just showed you the result [there is a huge jump from score to Stan. Score]

:) Let me rephrase. I deduced that my calculation method was how they too had worked it out given that it yielded the same results (although now that I do it again the results are only the same up to 3 decimal places, after that they diverge). But then again, I'm just a year 11 :P

haha, that's fair effort for a year 11 student! [are you doing MM 3/4?]
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Re: GA SCORE ESTIMATOR / STUDY SCORE ESTIMATOR
« Reply #27 on: October 31, 2008, 06:47:54 PM »
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Help!

Mine opens with no place to put in the details?

Im probably having a blonde moment!


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VCE 2007 - Outdoor and Environmental Studies - 44 (40.80)

VCE 2008 - English - 41 (40.61)
                Maths Methods CAS - 30 (37.46)
                Chemistry - 33 (37.93)
                Biology - 36 (36.68)
                Health & Human Development - 46 (44.49)

ENTER: 94.15 (!)

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« Reply #28 on: October 31, 2008, 06:49:40 PM »
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click on the bottom tab thingys. click SS
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« Reply #29 on: October 31, 2008, 06:52:07 PM »
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Is none.

Just a tab that says scroll lock. Is it because its open in compatibility mode in a read only file?

VCE 2007 - Outdoor and Environmental Studies - 44 (40.80)

VCE 2008 - English - 41 (40.61)
                Maths Methods CAS - 30 (37.46)
                Chemistry - 33 (37.93)
                Biology - 36 (36.68)
                Health & Human Development - 46 (44.49)

ENTER: 94.15 (!)

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