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Is this allowed/possible?
« on: September 01, 2010, 05:48:08 PM »
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My sister's school is offering her (Currently Yr 9, going into Yr 10 next year) the chance to do Psycology (Dunno the spelling  :D ) and Legal studies in 2011 (Units 1)

Unit 1 only!

They say that the Unit 3/4's are generally based on Unit 1 only?

Okay Fair enough... that "may" be true...im not sure though I never done any of them to tell her if it is or not?
Obviously, she'd complete the Unit 2 Section at home...

HOWEVER, what is striking me is that... How can the school/VCAA allow any student to complete a 3/4 in Year 11 or even 12 without having done the Unit 1 and 2 of it?


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Re: Is this allowed/possible?
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2010, 05:51:56 PM »
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Well legal can be done without 1 or 2, in fact there is about 5 in my class who didnt do either, so that seems fine. Don't know why she wouldn't just do both if she has the time.
Don't know about psych though, may be similar.
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« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2010, 05:52:58 PM »
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Well, i didn't do the unit 1/2 of Psychology, English Language, Further OR Physical Education, and I have not been affected in the slightest. You don't even need 1/2 it barely helps you most of the time, however, i would have preferred to do it for English Langauge but the others it's definitely unneeded.

Don't worry about it, tell her to focus on aspects of 3/4 if she's willing to self-study unit 2, as that's a better use of time..
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« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2010, 05:53:21 PM »
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I'm not so sure about the 3/4 being based on Unit 1 only holding true for all subjects. For some maybe.

Anyway, the VCAA just sets the assessment material (units 3 and 4) for students, they don't list prerequisite study. Whether or not it's a good idea is debatable (I think it is) but it's certainly possible.

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Re: Is this allowed/possible?
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2010, 05:53:32 PM »
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lol MHS did the whole Unit 1 only thing too.

For both Psychology and Legal studies you don't need 1/2 anyway...?

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« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2010, 05:54:06 PM »
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Well, i didn't do the unit 1/2 of Psychology, English Language, Further OR Physical Education, and I have not been affected in the slightest. You don't eve need 1/2 it barely helps you most of the time, though, i would have preferred to do it for English Langauge but the others it's unneeded.

Don't worry about it, tell her to focus on aspects of 3/4 if she's willing to self-study unit 2, as that's a better use of time..

This.
1/2 really doesn't help at all- for a couple subjects (3/4 Methods without 1/2 methods can be a big struggle)
lol MHS did the whole Unit 1 only thing too.

For both Psychology and Legal studies you don't need 1/2 anyway...?
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Re: Is this allowed/possible?
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2010, 05:54:16 PM »
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Thanks Darcy,

The school isnt actually permitting her to take Unit 2 at school !

Wierd huh?

So yeah, she'd definetly take things up at home I suppose.
Thanks, and yeah I suppose Psychology must be for the same reason.
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« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2010, 05:56:29 PM »
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Thanks everyone, I get it now...
I believe its silly though... Only doing 3/4 Units , and leave 1 unit? Obviously the 1 unit, serves a purpose.
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« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2010, 05:57:31 PM »
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Not always, unit 1 psych doesn't help with 3 or 4.
I end my argument here, as i feel like discussing this idea further makes me dumber, f(x) \propto \frac{1}{T}, f(x) my intelligence function and T the time I spend reading your claims.

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« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2010, 05:58:07 PM »
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My school offers Biology 3/4, Accounting 3/4, Further 3/4 and other subjects like Cisco and IT Applications 3/4... without doing the 1/2 of the subject and this is at Year 11 level.

I'm currently doing Accounting 3/4 in Year 11 and I didn't do Accounting 1/2 in Year 10 or 9. I was told that my school offers it as a taste for what it's like in Year 12, they told students not to a 'core' 3/4 subject like Methods (unless you've done Methods 1/2 in Year 10) etc. I think the schools just want students to see what it's like, doing a VCE in 3/4 subject (i.e. how the examination works), as opposed to just 1/2 subjects.

Speaking personally, I think that it's better to try a 3/4 subject in Year 11, even if you don't get 40+ or whatever, it will serve you well for Year 12.
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« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2010, 06:22:35 PM »
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At my school it's compulsory to do Unit 2 PE in year 10 :(
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« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2010, 07:36:12 PM »
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Yer when I did Psych in year 10 they only offered Unit 2, I think they want to allow for greater options. If she did both 1/2 for her subjects there wouldn't be much room for other stuff. She'll be fine!
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Re: Is this allowed/possible?
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2010, 08:04:03 PM »
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I got an A+ in unit 3 psych exam without doing 1+2. For subjects like this the unit 1+2 are only good for making up the required 16 units to pass VCE.

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« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2010, 08:32:31 PM »
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I did Psychology Unit 1 this year [ 10 ] and the only bit that will help me next year is "Resarch Methods" which can be easily self-taught.

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Re: Is this allowed/possible?
« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2010, 09:12:49 PM »
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I got a 50 in physics with only Unit 2, if that's helpful. It's better if they only concentrate on the relevant information, but to be honest, most material's encompassed entirely in the 3/4 course.
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